Which remap provider to use.

[SM27]

Hi everyone. I've just joined the forums and hope somebody can point me in the right direction. I've been thinking of remapping my A4 2.0T 2006 and there are so many companies. Just looking at a stage 1 remap. So far Celtic tuning is looking good with an increase from 200bhp to 261 bhp. DMS comes recommended from a friend who had their Bmw 335 done. Angel tuning is another. 

Has anybody used either of these companies? Any other recommendations or things I should watch out for? 

Already asking the insurance questions now Lol!

[Steve Q]

Welcome to the forum Shaz you'll find the members on here are a friendly and helpful bunch :) 

Celtic tuning I've heard of but never used them. You could also try Revo as I believe they do remap for vag cars. Never used them either though. 

Obviously before you get a remap done, make sure your car is in good health because if it's not then you can do more damage long term. 

Cheers

Steve

[SM27]

Thanks for the reply Steve. I was looking to get a major service and general health check done first with a good Audi specialist. If everything was ok I'd only then proceed with the remap. Will look at revo as well. 

[Steve Q]

You're welcome :) 

A major service and health check is very wise :) to help improve the car further, if you get induction kit/performance air filter and stainless steel exhaust and then get the car remapped then you should see even better results :) 

Cheers

Steve

[SM27]

I could probably stretch to the air filter but the car isn't worth enough to spend on a stainless steel exhaust .... if that makes sense. Do you recommend the higher octane fuels e.g. vpower or similar after the remap.

[SM27]

Another point Steve. Some people recommended upgrading the divertor valve on the tfsi engines as apparently after a remap that often goes.

[Steve Q]

9 hours ago, SM27 said:

I could probably stretch to the air filter but the car isn't worth enough to spend on a stainless steel exhaust .... if that makes sense. Do you recommend the higher octane fuels e.g. vpower or similar after the remap.

Fair point but the air filter is a cheap upgrade and any fuel with high octane will help performance  :) 

 

8 hours ago, SM27 said:

Another point Steve. Some people recommended upgrading the divertor valve on the tfsi engines as apparently after a remap that often goes.

Erm, I can't say I've seen any members complaining of issues on here with the valve but any experienced tuner should be able to tell you this :) 

Cheers

Steve

[SM27]

Thanks for the tips. Spoke to an Audi mechanic who said the diverter valve can go on the tfsi engines.... regardless of remap. Said the earlier forge versions weren't great so stick to the Audi one. I was surprised with the admiral insurance quote though.... up to 25 % it will be around an extra 18 quid for the year! It just means I'll have to limit the remap to 250bhp.... to stay legal. Celtic tuning said they could do that for me too. Let's hope everything is good after the service. Will keep u updated. Hunting around to see the best combo for bhp and torque now. 

[Steve Q]

Well it sounds like your information is from a great source (being an Audi technician). If that's what he recommends then I'd do it. That's good of admiral! And the benefit of limiting the bhp to 250 is that you are putting less strain on the engine and gearbox :) 

Cheers

Steve

[SM27]

On the topic of gearboxes they also said the automatic boxes are stronger than the manuals regarding strain and pressure after a remap. I'm comparing the various remappers now with their bhp and torque and seeing which is best. Since torque isn't something the insurance company asks about ;)

[Simon H]

Have a look at Shark performance for a remap. They now there stuff been tuning vat cars for a few years now.

 

[SM27]

On 18/02/2018 at 2:16 PM, Simon H said:

Have a look at Shark performance for a remap. They now there stuff been tuning vat cars for a few years now.

 

Thanks Simon. That's got me confused now! What is the best combination between bhp and torque? 

Most remappers take the 200bhp and 280nm torque up to 240bhp and 360nm torque. 

Celtic however do 261bhp and 366nm. 

Dms do 249bhp and 340nm but they consider themselves to be the best. 

Now shark do 240bhp but 400nm torque. 

Is 261bhp and 366nm better than 240bhp and 400nm torque? Or is the 249bhp and 340nm less strain and the best.

Any advice welcome!!

[Simon H]

The torque figure is the one to look at. Shark also tune cars in some of the racing series as well.

 

[Sharkie]

Used AMD in Bicester in past , think they quote xtra 50 bhp and 80nm 

[SM27]

On 03/03/2018 at 6:36 PM, Sharkie said:

Used AMD in Bicester in past , think they quote xtra 50 bhp and 80nm 

Thanks sharkie. They have somewhere near lakeside too I believe and have a good rep. I'm split between having 360nm from 280nm. Or going 400nm with shark but considering the extra strain on the car and components given it is a 12 year old car now. Either way I guess there will be noticeable difference from stock. 

[Sharkie]

if it was i ,probabily go for the 360 enough of an improvment with possibly a little less stress on the mechanics.

having had a 2007 2.oT A4 avant always happy with its performance but with another 80 torques wow should be really good .

 

[SM27]

On 05/03/2018 at 5:48 PM, Sharkie said:

if it was i ,probabily go for the 360 enough of an improvment with possibly a little less stress on the mechanics.

having had a 2007 2.oT A4 avant always happy with its performance but with another 80 torques wow should be really good .

 

That's the way I was heading tbh. 240ish bhp and 360nm torque.... I just think 400nm will cause too many problems and as you say 280nm to 360nm will defo be noticeable