Glenpring Posted November 21, 2021 Posted November 21, 2021 Hi all i retrofit Xenons and auto level controls to my audi A5 2013 since i have done this i have lost my front pdc and front windscreen washer i have the front pdc displayed on the mmi screen but they just dont show how close i am to things i have checked continuity on the washer wires and they are fine if i go in to measuring blocks i can see the when i pull the stalk that the signal is being received and i have checked the washer pump on another car and that's fine i have changed my bcm1 from 8K0 907 063 DC to 8K0 907 063 DH i have also had component protection removed can anyone help or point me in the right direction to start looking at things [CODE]Sunday,21,November,2021,17:00:58:23200 VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 8 x86 VCDS Version: 21.9.0.2 Data version: 20210903 DS330.0 www.Ross-Tech.com VIN: WAUZZZ8T8DA048715 License Plate: 21-11-2021 Mileage: 181140km-112555mi Repair Order: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Chassis Type: 8T-AU48 (8R0) Scan: 01 03 05 08 09 15 16 17 19 42 44 46 52 53 55 56 5F 62 6C 72 VIN: WAUZZZ8T8DA048715 Mileage: 181140km-112555miles 01-Engine -- Status: OK 0000 03-ABS Brakes -- Status: OK 0000 04-Steering Angle -- Status: OK 0000 05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: OK 0000 08-Auto HVAC -- Status: OK 0000 09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010 15-Airbags -- Status: OK 0000 16-Steering wheel -- Status: OK 0000 17-Instruments -- Status: OK 0000 19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000 42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000 44-Steering Assist -- Status: OK 0000 46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000 52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000 53-Parking Brake -- Status: OK 0000 55-Headlight Range -- Status: OK 0000 56-Radio -- Status: OK 0000 5F-Information Electr. -- Status: Malfunction 0010 62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000 6C-Back-up Cam. -- Status: OK 0000 72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: OK 0000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 01: Engine (J623-CJCB) Labels:. 03L-906-018-CGL.clb Part No SW: 03L 906 018 JP HW: 03L 906 018 JL Component: R4 2,0L EDC H25 2842 Revision: 45H25--- CVN: DB1E9282 Coding: 0A194012232401080000 Shop #: WSC 40012 002 104857 ASAM Dataset: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018JP 003005 ROD: EV_ECM20TDI01103L906018AC.rod VCID: 010E543F9053AA814E-8054 VINID: 9D196AAAA2242144401081C1141C5DCFE6 No fault code found. Readiness: 0 0 0 0 0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 03: ABS Brakes (J104) Labels:. 8K0-907-379-V1.clb Part No SW: 8K0 907 379 CG HW: 8K0 907 379 CG Component: ESP8 front H09 0100 Revision: -------- Serial number: -------------- Coding: 161544 Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000 VCID: 0008513B9359A38941-8054 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. (J393) Labels:. 8K0-907-064-05.clb Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 GB HW: 8K0 907 064 FB Component: BCM2 2.0 H12 0633 Revision: 00002001 Coding: 03B44000000000000000 Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000 VCID: 76E437E3C19D9D396B-8022 Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 754 H HW: 8K0 959 754 H Component: FBSAUDIB8 IDG H71 0083 Serial number: 0512000083987008 Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 905 852 E HW: 8K0 905 852 E Component: J764 ELV MLB H40 0046 Serial number: 2312000281568013 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 08: Auto HVAC (J255) Labels:. 8Kx-820-043-3Z.clb Part No SW: 8K2 820 043 AH HW: 8K2 820 043 AH Component: KLIMA 3 ZONEN H04 0123 Revision: D0000000 Serial number: 01131220120005 Coding: 342402E000 Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000 VCID: 6FEA0287BEC7ACF1A8-803A No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 09: Cent. Elect. (J519) Labels:. 8K0-907-063.clb Part No SW: 8K0 907 063 DH HW: 8K0 907 063 DH Component: BCM1 1.0 H16 0103 Revision: 08016001 Serial number: 00001101019302 Coding: 260000118034AFC00081400000001D0D001D020827090201000008000400020000000034000000 Shop #: WSC 06325 123 12345 VCID: 78F839DBCB89EB4979-802C Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T2 955 119 D HW: 8J2 955 119 Labels: 1KX-955-119.CLB Component: WWS 141212 H13 0080 Serial number: SWF12120145338 Coding: 00FD11 Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8U0 955 559 B HW: 8U0 955 559 B Labels: 8U0-955-559.CLB Component: G397_RLFS H06 0002 Serial number: 20833742 Coding: 02005D Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8K0 941 531 AS HW: 8K0 941 531 AS Component: E1 - LDS H03 0031 Serial number: 00000000001012124109 Subsystem 4 - Part No SW: 4H0 907 658 HW: 4H0 907 658 Component: AQ_Hum_Sensor H03 0003 Serial number: F2780F56000000000001 1 Fault Found: 00156 - Control Circuit for Windshield Washer Pump 012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 01101100 Fault Priority: 2 Fault Frequency: 1 Reset counter: 181 Mileage: 181143 km Time Indication: 0 Date: 2021.11.21 Time: 16:56:16 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 15: Airbags (J234) Labels:| 8K0-959-655.clb Part No SW: 8K0 959 655 N HW: 8K0 959 655 N Component: AirbagVW-AU10 H45 0610 Serial number: 003KFD97B833 Coding: 30533938363030303030554A305238543053 Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000 ASAM Dataset: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010 003010 ROD: EV_AirbaECUVWAUDI010_003_AU48.rod VCID: 4898891BF3E95BC9C9-801C Crash sensor for side airbag: driver side: Serial number: 6334MSME75754B6BT Front Passenger's Side Airbag Crash Sensor: Serial number: 6344MSME75432E5CQ Rear Side Airbag Crash Sensor (on driver's side): Serial number: 6352QSME1A2910505 Passenger side rear thorax airbag crash sensor: Serial number: 6362QSME78273B44O Crash sensor for front airbag: driver side: Serial number: 63732SME0B28384A2 Crash sensor for front airbag: front passenger side: Serial number: 63832SME07280462T No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 16: Steering wheel (J527) Labels:. 8K0-953-568.clb Part No SW: 8R0 953 568 Q HW: 8R0 953 568 Q Component: Lenks.Modul H02 0171 Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 20130325001262 Coding: 000016 Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000 VCID: 4FAAA2071E878CF188-801A Component: E221 - MFL H03 0004 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 17: Instruments (J285) Labels:. 8T0-920-xxx-17.clb Part No SW: 8T0 920 983 M HW: 8T0 920 983 M Component: KOMBIINSTR. H35 0556 Revision: 00000000 Serial number: UUW27RJDD Coding: 33AD300002012600010000 Shop #: WSC 06325 123 12345 VCID: 4898891BFBE95BC9C9-801C No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 19: CAN Gateway (J533) Labels:. 8T0-907-468.clb Part No SW: 8R0 907 468 N HW: 8R0 907 468 C Component: GW-BEM 4CAN-M H11 0055 Revision: 1Y060027 Serial number: 2741Y12C2101F2 Coding: 80CF07FF00 Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000 VCID: 4A9CB313E5E5A9D9DF-801E Subsystem 1 - Part No SW: 8T0 915 181 HW: 8T0 915 181 Component: J367-BDMHella H03 8041 Serial number: 9361038801 Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8K0 959 663 HW: 8K0 959 663 Component: J532_DCDCStab H17 0042 Serial number: 12354000711011200181 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 42: Door Elect, Driver (J386) Labels:. 8K0-959-793.clb Part No SW: 8T0 959 793 P HW: 8T0 959 793 G Component: TSG FA H09 0305 Revision: -------- Serial number: -------------- Coding: 011502625001450005 Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000 VCID: 56A45763215DFD394B-8002 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 44: Steering Assist (J500) Labels:| 8K0-909-144.clb Part No SW: 8K0 909 144 F HW: 8K0 909 144 B Component: RCEPS H37 0507 Revision: 00001000 Serial number: 0011131730 Coding: 100000000001 Shop #: WSC 06324 000 00000 ASAM Dataset: EV_RCEPSAU48X 008014 ROD: EV_RCEPSAU48X_008.rod VCID: 3460CDEB9F61CF2995-8060 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 46: Central Conv. (J393) Labels:. 8K0-907-064-46.clb Part No SW: 8K0 907 064 GB HW: 8K0 907 064 FB Component: BCM2 2.0 H12 0633 Revision: 00002001 Serial number: 0300017325 Coding: 013B062220B900C08320043680000000 Shop #: WSC 06325 123 12345 VCID: 76E437E3C19D9D396B-8022 Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8K0 951 177 Component: DWA-Sensor H02 0040 Subsystem 2 - Part No: 1K0 951 605 C Component: LIN BACKUP HO H05 1501 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. (J387) Labels:. 8K0-959-792.clb Part No SW: 8T0 959 792 P HW: 8T0 959 792 G Component: TSG BF H09 0305 Revision: -------- Serial number: -------------- Coding: 011502225C01450005 Shop #: WSC 06325 123 12345 VCID: 55A6506F3C5BF62142-8000 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 53: Parking Brake (----) Labels: 8K0-907-801-V2.clb Part No SW: 8K0 907 801 L HW: 8K0 907 801 J Component: EPB-4 H01 0003 Revision: -------- Serial number: 20000000209472 ASAM Dataset: EV_ParkiBrake 001027 ROD: EV_ParkiBrake_AU48.rod VCID: 3878F9DB83092B49B9-806C No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 55: Headlight Range Labels: 8K0-907-357.clb Part No: 8K5 907 357 B Component: Dynamische LWR H02 0010 Revision: 00000001 Serial number: Coding: 0000001 Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000 VCID: 397EFCDF7003324146-806C No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 56: Radio (R) Labels:. 4F0-035-0xx-56.clb Part No SW: 4G0 035 056 J HW: 4G0 035 056 Component: Radio U STD H60 0133 Revision: AB001007 Serial number: 230L40C7578870 Coding: 010003020100000001 Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000 VCID: 2858299B5BA9BBC929-807C No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 5F: Information Electr. (J794) Labels:. 4E0-035-6xx-5F.clb Part No SW: 8R2 035 666 L HW: 8R2 035 666 C Component: H-BN-EU H45 1036 Revision: -------- Serial number: 206L-0C7511806 Coding: 130101040006C1EF0180CF5E00000403E40000020000000000 Shop #: WSC 06325 123 12345 VCID: 428C9B33DDD5719917-8016 Subsystem 1 - Part No: 8R0 060 884 HQ Component: EUR 2021 3201 Subsystem 2 - Part No SW: 8R0 919 604 HW: 8R0 919 604 Component: DU7 High H41 0104 Serial number: A130L/0C2607696 Subsystem 3 - Part No SW: 8T0 919 611 K HW: 8T0 919 611 B Component: E0380 Bedient H02 0030 Serial number: 00000001365606 Subsystem 4 - Part No: 8R0 060 961 E Component: CD-Database 4949 1 Fault Found: 01043 - Control Module; Incorrect Software Version 000 - - Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 01100000 Fault Priority: 5 Fault Frequency: 1 Reset counter: 181 Mileage: 181143 km Time Indication: 0 Date: 2021.11.21 Time: 16:40:03 Freeze Frame: Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000 Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000 Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000 Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000 Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000000 Bin. Bits: 00000000 00000010 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 62: Door, Rear Left (J388) Labels:. 8K0-959-795.clb Part No SW: 8T0 959 795 Q HW: 8T0 959 795 H Component: TSG HL H07 0304 Revision: -------- Serial number: -------------- Coding: 010402224001450005 Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000 VCID: 59BE5C5F5043D24166-800C No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 6C: Back-up Cam. Labels: 8T0-907-441.clb Part No SW: 8T0 907 441 C HW: 4L0 907 441 B Component: J772__Rearview 0040 Revision: --H04--- Serial number: 525PA8-J0392UV Coding: 1022006 Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000 VCID: 3878F9DB4B092B49B9-806C No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 72: Door, Rear Right (J389) Labels:. 8K0-959-794.clb Part No SW: 8T0 959 795 Q HW: 8T0 959 795 H Component: TSG HR H07 0304 Revision: -------- Serial number: -------------- Coding: 010402224001450005 Shop #: WSC 06325 000 00000 VCID: 59BE5C5F5043D24166-800C No fault code found. End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 03:54)-------------------------- [/CODE]
Steve Q Posted November 24, 2021 Posted November 24, 2021 My advice would be to get an auto electrician to take a look. However hate to be a barer of bad news but the UK government has changed the rules regarding vehicle lighting. I believe you a now not allowed to upgrade a car lighting system from what it was when it left the factory. It is/going to be an mot fail. 1
Glenpring Posted November 24, 2021 Author Posted November 24, 2021 How would they know it’s all been done to oem spec lights auto level and headlight washers?
Stevey Y Posted November 24, 2021 Posted November 24, 2021 7 hours ago, Glenpring said: How would they know it’s all been done to oem spec lights auto level and headlight washers? Hi, Steve is right as all the new MOT equipment throws up the build specs for lighting etc so the tester knows what he had to check, my local garage I use has an MOT bay next door, when I was down there earlier this week I was chatting to the tester about the pile of H4 Led bulbs on top of the the bench, apparently they are from the many MK5/6 Fiestas he MOTs for the local boy racers he used to be able to give a non urgent advisory about the foggy beam pattern but one year on its now law they have to be fitted with the type of bulb the car left the factory with. I admire your reasoning but you have done everything bar fitting a range control module for the self levelling system as on Audis with this fitted way before your year have all had this, even my A6 has one as that is HID but has no washers for the lights as it comes fitted with D5S 25w bulbs which use less power than say D3S/D1S which are all 55w therefore under European law washers are not required, as for your other problems its not recognising the new BCM for some reason, when your car reached the end of the production line it is then plugged into a massive mainframe computer which dishes out the correct software version for each module on the build specification, what type of lights used, what fuel used, what engine power output is required, all these modules talk to the ECU which digests the information while in contact with that software version it recognises, no recognition no communication then the ECU starts cancelling functions that it can't recognise from that software, you really should see the size of the Sony can bus I had to have fitted when my cab meter was fitted just to stop the BCM from spitting its dummy out, thats why hardwire dash cams are clever as they piggy back on to an existing fuse or a designated spare fuse station but are never noticed as they draw less than 2amps, the electrical system is designed to ignore really low voltage drains as they don't have the potential to cause real problems within the programmed perameters. Steve.
Glenpring Posted November 24, 2021 Author Posted November 24, 2021 I have fitted range control address 55 on my auto scan. Don’t suppose you have a link or any online info regarding the build spec being check at the mot station as I’m not able to find anything online. Would be good to have a read up on it.
Stevey Y Posted November 24, 2021 Posted November 24, 2021 18 minutes ago, Glenpring said: I have fitted range control address 55 on my auto scan. Don’t suppose you have a link or any online info regarding the build spec being check at the mot station as I’m not able to find anything online. Would be good to have a read up on it. Hi I think this information is exclusive to the stations as it beggars belief the amount of double logins and the swipe card that is used just to get into the system, its getting that tricky now as in the old days with the emissions if you had a car that had failed you could always use a car that had passed and use that reading but now because the Vin has to be entered it knows what it should be checking so if any other vehicle is used it clocks up a fail if there is any descrepency, they are electronically heading at type approval even though its a European thing and we are not in it anymore, I think your main problem is the non compatible software programmed into the new BCM, also I would be checking if that year and model were ever produced with HIDs if yes then you are in with a shout as you could always tell them it was a grey import as normally information on those is pretty rare, as for the software I would not know where to begin as thats a bit above my pay grade, as for the MOT info I am only going on what I have been told by a couple of testers, I have two MOTs a year as my car is used as a cab, I had fitted higher output bulbs before the last one and the tester spent ages looking at the headlights and then commented they seemed brighter in the beam reader so I just told him I had replaced the bulbs so he pulled a face and let it go. Steve.
Stevey Y Posted November 24, 2021 Posted November 24, 2021 Hi just a thought have you tried coding the new BCM with the old units coding, save both so you can always go back. Steve.
Glenpring Posted November 24, 2021 Author Posted November 24, 2021 All coding was saved and double checked between both modules I used turns out there’s a fault in the DH module as the old module was put back in everything worked brought another DH module and everything works with that one so It could only be a faulty module just need to get component protection removed again. 1
Stevey Y Posted November 25, 2021 Posted November 25, 2021 20 hours ago, Glenpring said: All coding was saved and double checked between both modules I used turns out there’s a fault in the DH module as the old module was put back in everything worked brought another DH module and everything works with that one so It could only be a faulty module just need to get component protection removed again. Hi Glen I did a bit of digging today and phoned the most sensible tester I know, it appears Steve and myself were a bit adrift on this one, he must have read the same legislation I did last year which has changed again this year, the guy sent me a bulletin he had received this year, apparently according to him the legislation is aimed at people who bore holes in their halogen head lights and then fit retro fish eye lenses and Hid units or the same with LED bulb conversions as he explained if your car is fitted with O.E. Specific headlight units and all the relevant equipment to operate them he couldn't see a problem with that as it may well have come as an option, what the tester is looking for is a nice sharp beam cut off with no vague cut off lines and the o/s unit cut off being slightly under the n/s. I owe you a big fat apology as you have done everything in the correct order and I was wrong. Steve.
Glenpring Posted November 25, 2021 Author Posted November 25, 2021 Yer I did see that yesterday when I looked but thought I had miss read it. Thanks for the info 👍🏻
Steve Q Posted November 25, 2021 Posted November 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Stevey Y said: Hi Glen I did a bit of digging today and phoned the most sensible tester I know, it appears Steve and myself were a bit adrift on this one, he must have read the same legislation I did last year which has changed again this year, the guy sent me a bulletin he had received this year, apparently according to him the legislation is aimed at people who bore holes in their halogen head lights and then fit retro fish eye lenses and Hid units or the same with LED bulb conversions as he explained if your car is fitted with O.E. Specific headlight units and all the relevant equipment to operate them he couldn't see a problem with that as it may well have come as an option, what the tester is looking for is a nice sharp beam cut off with no vague cut off lines and the o/s unit cut off being slightly under the n/s. I owe you a big fat apology as you have done everything in the correct order and I was wrong. Steve. Now I've learnt something new 🙂
Stevey Y Posted November 25, 2021 Posted November 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Steve Q said: Now I've learnt something new 🙂 If you think we were confused that won't even come close to what the testers are dealing with, my chap is constantly dealing with the latest changes they keep introducing and then change their mind a while later, example all cars emissions should meet the figure on the production sticker on the drivers door rocker panel, so if it did not have a sticker you had to fail the car, then they sent out a directive if it has not got the sticker as long as the levels don't exceed the max permissible on the VOSA chart the car passes even if it might have had a lower figure on the now absent sticker. Steve.
Steve Q Posted November 25, 2021 Posted November 25, 2021 28 minutes ago, Stevey Y said: If you think we were confused that won't even come close to what the testers are dealing with, my chap is constantly dealing with the latest changes they keep introducing and then change their mind a while later, example all cars emissions should meet the figure on the production sticker on the drivers door rocker panel, so if it did not have a sticker you had to fail the car, then they sent out a directive if it has not got the sticker as long as the levels don't exceed the max permissible on the VOSA chart the car passes even if it might have had a lower figure on the now absent sticker. Steve. Hmm, now how is that fair. I'd be tempted to remove the stickers on my two old cars including my a6 out if principal.
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