2.0 tdi ultra

[andy1976]

Hi all - new member here! I've just picked up a 2.0 tdi Ultra sport Avant which has blown me away in terms of quality, comfort and refinement. The dash is a work of art too. There are a few gripes that I'm sorting via the dealer and if not it will mean the car gets returned. In the meantime what I'm rapidly learning is that this engine has some expensive issues (adblue pump/egr...). But that's the nature of forums - the majority of topics are people looking for help with issues. So the question is have any of you here with the same engine had a reliable experience without having to replace these parts? And for how long? It feels like an inevitability depending on what you read! Thanks for reading and noted about a bit of courtesy when getting replies admin! 

[Steve Q]

Welcome to the forum you'll find the members on here are a friendly and helpful bunch 🙂 

Keep us posted on how you get on, as you know your consumer rights hopefully all issues will be resolved. 

[Stevey Y]

48 minutes ago, andy1976 said:

Hi all - new member here! I've just picked up a 2.0 tdi Ultra sport Avant which has blown me away in terms of quality, comfort and refinement. The dash is a work of art too. There are a few gripes that I'm sorting via the dealer and if not it will mean the car gets returned. In the meantime what I'm rapidly learning is that this engine has some expensive issues (adblue pump/egr...). But that's the nature of forums - the majority of topics are people looking for help with issues. So the question is have any of you here with the same engine had a reliable experience without having to replace these parts? And for how long? It feels like an inevitability depending on what you read! Thanks for reading and noted about a bit of courtesy when getting replies admin! 

Hi, yes the refinements are great but if its a CNHA engine or any of its derivatives for that year you will inevitably come across EGR cooler problems and MAF/MAP problems I ran mine over 270k as a taxi and believe me I ran in to a multitude of problems during that milage, the worst being the EGR cooler and its valve which are a nightmare to change then you have the clutch, parts are hard to get hold of unless you want to get them from Audi my first one was £1900 for the parts alone and only about £100 cheaper on subsequent changes, around 100,000 miles the game becomes interesting with things like oil leaks around the sump and oil level sensors packing up, you can't beat a dipstick, then there is the silica bag in the expansion tank which ruptures and kills the heater matrix if you dont get at it a bit sharpish, drive shaft outer gaiters tend to be a problem as well, never had a problem with the adblue as I used so much I dont think it had a chance to crystallise, lovely drive but expensive parts/labour even at an independent garage because everything major is so hard to get at, as for the nature of forums thats just the tip of the iceberg, the majority of owners who have the problems with EGR coolers and clutches just sell the car when they find out the cost of the repairs, I am lucky insomuch as I did most of the repairs and have an excellent rapport with my local garage for clutches etc.

Steve.

[andy1976]

2 minutes ago, Stevey Y said:

Hi, yes the refinements are great but if its a CNHA engine or any of its derivatives for that year you will inevitably come across EGR cooler problems and MAF/MAP problems I ran mine over 270k as a taxi and believe me I ran in to a multitude of problems during that milage, the worst being the EGR cooler and its valve which are a nightmare to change then you have the clutch, parts are hard to get hold of unless you want to get them from Audi my first one was £1900 for the parts alone and only about £100 cheaper on subsequent changes, around 100,000 miles the game becomes interesting with things like oil leaks around the sump and oil level sensors packing up, you can't beat a dipstick, then there is the silica bag in the expansion tank which ruptures and kills the heater matrix if you dont get at it a bit sharpish, drive shaft outer gaiters tend to be a problem as well, never had a problem with the adblue as I used so much I dont think it had a chance to crystallise, lovely drive but expensive parts/labour even at an independent garage because everything major is so hard to get at, as for the nature of forums thats just the tip of the iceberg, the majority of owners who have the problems with EGR coolers and clutches just sell the car when they find out the cost of the repairs, I am lucky insomuch as I did most of the repairs and have an excellent rapport with my local garage for clutches etc.

Steve.

Thanks Steve I think my heater matrix is dead.... this may be a reason to return the car as much as I love it. Finding out a premium brand has such a problem is hardly inspiring and especially with a huge labour bill. And all those other issues you mention too....

Such a shame, it's a lovely car.

[andy1976]

38 minutes ago, Steve Q said:

Welcome to the forum you'll find the members on here are a friendly and helpful bunch 🙂 

Keep us posted on how you get on, as you know your consumer rights hopefully all issues will be resolved. 

Thanks Steve - will do!

[Stevey Y]

1 minute ago, andy1976 said:

Thanks Steve I think my heater matrix is dead.... this may be a reason to return the car as much as I love it. Finding out a premium brand has such a problem is hardly inspiring and especially with a huge labour bill. And all those other issues you mention too....

Such a shame, it's a lovely car.

Hi yes  they are one of the best cars you could own in terms of drivability and comfort but the built in obsolescence is off the Richter scale, I think what happened was they built a reputation for reliability during the nineties and have been trading on that ever since whilst back tracking on parts quality, I think the premium sticker is pretty faded for most German car producers, BMW Mercedes Audi.

Steve.

[andy1976]

So I'm in the process of rejecting the diesel. Does the petrol enjoy better reliability? 

[Steve Q]

14 minutes ago, andy1976 said:

So I'm in the process of rejecting the diesel. Does the petrol enjoy better reliability? 

How's that going? 

How has the dealer been? 

[andy1976]

Cooperative so far. My car has been collected and the fault will be assessed at the dealer tomorrow. I will be pushing hard for rejection because even if they get it working I'm concerned about the residual damage caused by any neglect from the previous owner. 

[Steve Q]

The thing most people forget about german cars is that no matter how cheap they become Tom purchase the maintenance costs are just the same. So like you say, people just leave it if something big starts to fail.