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all good advice but I am amazed at the difference for "alegedly" the same service. I've used Saga on & off for many tears & usually find they will, if not match, get close to most others & the Saga service is always brilliant in times of need (not for a few years now thankfully)

LPG wasn't ever taken seriously, as only a couple of manufacturers ever offered it. The rest, probably because of lack of govt subsidies, never invested or developed the fuel system. LPG systems were (and probably still are) in effect as unrefined as a carburettor just dumping buckets of fuel into a modern engine fitted with multi-point refined fuel injection, which was proven by one of our Range Rovers with LPG which blew it's air filter box apart with the force of the backfire. When working for a fleet company, Ford UK told me that there was no LPG conversion system (including revised cylinder head), yet my colleague was able to obtain a genuine one through Ford in Scandinavia (as it was offered as an option out there). Most manufacturers official response to the question around warranty on vehicle being fired with LPG was a flat "no, your warranty will be null & void". The best response was from either Toyota or VAG (afraid I can't remember which one!), which the letter back to me stated "your warranty will remain valid only if you fit a manufacturer-approved system", which made me think a bit more positive until I called my contact and asked the question of how many systems were approved, to which they said "erm, none".

Fair enough! And i though it was a new invention lol

It all depends on the system. Prices from ebay mmi 2g - update cost £20 ( 2 dvds ) Mmi3g low - around £30 (dvd) Mmi3g high hdd - around £70 ( 1 cd firmware and 2 sd cards maps) Mib and mib 2 - not sure as they are new systems from 2015 +

So basically the best way to stay environmentally friendly is to maintain and service your car as long as you possibly can, until it really is beyond repair , the amount of cars I have seen scrapped that had a good few years left in them is astounding , I am currently doing up a 2005 Corolla 1.4 vvti , all that was wrong with it was horn never worked - Cleaned connection , replaced a rusty wishbone, couple of tyres , some brake pipes replaced , quite a few but actually a doddle when you have the correct tools, front discs and pads , cleaned up rear brakes and replaced a brake backing plate, wipers and hey presto an mot'd corolla in good nic with only 78k on the clock. Paid 100 for the car , spent about 300-350, have a buyer lined up for 900,

Trouble is, this issue with indirect environmental costs has been with us for years. Back when catalytic converters started to get used (compulsory in the UK in 1992 but fitted to a number of cars before then), many rare metals had to be dug out of the ground to go into the cat unit. Being an ex-mechanic, I know this was being discussed by us lowly grease monkeys in the late 90s, and sadly I doubt anything has changed since then and also doubt there is any effective system in place to help remove these metals from scrapped cat-converters before they get crushed. Having also worked in the car fleet industry 15ish years ago and being involved in the alternative fuel/dualfuel fleet being operated by the fleet company I worked for, I found it impossible to get a real-life figure of what it cost environmentally to produce an electric vehicle compared to the regular petrol or diesel variant of the same vehicle (which is actually a pretty efficient way of manufacturing nowadays as they've had a hundred years or so to get good at it). And don't even try to get an "end-of-life" destruction cost to the environment from a manufacturer, as they don't want to embarrass themselves.

Graham, I think it's fantastic that you've organised this rolling road day! Top work :) would you like me to promote it on the club Facebook page? I can also ask Trevor to add a banner at the top of the home screen if you would like? Cheers :) Steve

Good point Steve about the definition of (flashing) indicators. Perhaps it works on the principle that each light is illuminated then switches off and then repeats the cycle of being illuminated. I.e. Each light does have a flashing period. Kind regards, Gareth.

Thanks Trevor. I'll have a look and check the connections. To be fair, it's in very good order under the bonnet.

The thing that I'm curious about is how Audi have managed to get these passed. I though indicators had to blink in a certain pattern with X number of seconds gap between each blink? By definition the Audi indicators don't actually blink but are more like a strobe light which I though on cars was illegal? Hope I've made sense! You have a good point Trevor the fog lights do illuminate when the vehicle turns which has been useful when people don't both to use their indicators!

I agree electric cars arnt the future I think hydrogen cars are though.

The problem with electric cars is the sheer amount of fossil fuels that you have to use to mine the materials , not to mention coal furnaces to extract what you need from the ore ! Google Lithium mines and you will see what I mean, the best from of car power supply would be nuclear not electric.