Hi Steve , thanks for response, of course you're right it would be much better to get a set from a B6 Avant but there's not a good cream set at the moment . Ebay was my 1st port of call , followed by Gumtree followed by "breaking A4" on ebay , then you start looking to see what else would fit fairly easily .perhaps I can find a b6 Passat locally to have a close check but otherwise might be best to test my patience .I'll let you know what I end up with , thanks again Richard