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Hello Gary, I really don’t have any worries about the advice given, or the possibility of any comebacks. As with all forums, advice and assistance is given freely where asked for, and of course, may or may not be the best of advice - but it’s free! Well fair do s as we say here, it seems the seller is initially funding the inspection, and the transportation cost, and when it’s delivered to your door, you have the option of saying ‘no thanks’. Sounds a nothing-to-lose deal from your side. I’m sure it will all work out well for you. Kind regards, Gareth.

You are a braver man than me Gary! So you are prepared to actually buy this sight unseen? Now that is brave. Kind regards, Gareth. p.s. I don’t recall advising you to give him a ring.

Hello Mark, I would most definitely be seeking the opinion of another mechanic. Apologies for being pedantic but the noise has now changed from a clunk to a rattle. It could be me, but I interpreted the originally described symptom as a clunk on take up of the drive. A rattle on acceleration would need to be clarified to the inspecting mechanic as being a noise when the engine is revved when stationary, or only when the car is on the move. Perhaps you could let us know how you get on Mark. Kind regards, Gareth.

Hello Gary, Before any interest in terms of inspection:- The briefest or description by seller. Just as well state - Starts, drives, stops! Last V5 activity was Dec. 2019 which suggests ownership since then. No that long in my book. MOT history shows fairly regular comments for tyres near the limit. Not a good indication of careful maintenance. I don’t think I would be rushing off to look at this one, and it’s comparatively on my doorstep! Apologies Gary if you’ve already looked up the above detail. Kind regards, Gareth.

Hello Gary, I’m not sure whether any of this is going to be of any help to you but....., We have a 2006 1.6 A3 Sportback, which has been in the family from new and has covered close on 165k, and no doubt if I was to offer it to you, it would be a little/no interest due to the mileage. This car has been (over?) maintained and I really hope it will continue to give good service, since we have no intention of parting with it. All this has been mentioned, with a view of not blinkering your search to maximum mileages, and main dealer service histories. Dealers and dodgy? Good question, but the answer is that dealers only retail vehicles which dodgy owners have put in part exchange without declaring known faults! Dealers don’t generally set out to be dodgy. If I were in your situation, I would be attempting to buy privately from an owner who has owned the car for some time (important). In this situation, you will actually be talking to the person who knows the car, and can tell you what work has, and hadn’t been done on it. If you find something which appeals, then spend wisely on an independent inspection. My view is that nice cars should be bought from nice people, over a nice cup of tea. Remember, full service history can equate to the car spending half a day in a workshop every 18 months or so, and any maintenance being totally ignored and the car ill treated for the rest of its life. Good luck with your quest. Kind regards, Gareth.

Thanks Mark, So a clearer picture now emerges, and as well as a new clutch master cylinder being most recently fitted, the car was fitted with a replacement clutch assembly in recent times - including a dual mass flywheel? So the issue you have doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s anything to do with the fitting of the master cylinder, but could equally be to do with the clutch assembly itself, or indeed something totally different. Can you let us know why the master cylinder was changed? I’m sure you will appreciate Mark, that it would be extremely difficult to pinpoint a cause of this issue without actually inspecting and testing the car, so the answer is more likely to be found at your trusted local garage, otherwise it becomes a guessing game on here. Kind regards, Gareth.

Hello Mark, ’.....clutch master cylinder changed’ . Sure it was the master cylinder and not the slave cylinder/ release bearing assembly? Kind regards, Gareth.

Hello Anne, I’m obviously very much with Richard on this, and if this were mine, I would be very much dissatisfied with this particular car, and would be eventually considering rejecting it. As Richard says, the first action is to get your Audi dealer to carryout an oil consumption test on the car. If (in caps?) the AA are correct in their calculations, then the oil warning light has come on far too late for the car to require 4 litres of oil to return to the correct level, and indeed, if this is fact, then running the car on only 1.5 litres of oil in the sump, will not have done the engine any good at all - putting it mildly! If the AA’s calculation is incorrect, then it might be found that the engine now has a high (excessively so?) oil level, due to adding too much. Whatever, the dealer will need to drain the sump, and replenish with the specified quantity. As Richard says, you will then be asked to drive the car over a set mileage, and the car’s consumption gauged from the quantity needed to return the level to the original. Not wishing to delve into your personal circumstances, but there is any element of finance involved with the car, then I would be notifying them that the car has suspected high oil consumption, and you will notify them again once the necessary tests have been carried out. Perhaps you could keep us posted on how you get on. Kind regards, Gareth.

Hello Anne, If I’m reading your post correctly, then this is crazy, and simply unacceptable. My maths on your figures concludes that the car has used 4litres of oil in the first c4000 miles. i.e. it’s doing 1000 miles/litre, or in old English, less than 600 miles/pint - I have a couple of 80+ year old cars which can match that! Richard provides some useful statistics:-......up to 0.5l /1000km, which is of course 1 ltr per 2000 km, (1250 miles). It seems yours has averaged a consumption in excess of this - 1 ltr/1000 miles, and it has to be appreciated that its consumption should have reduced over the last couple of thousand miles as it beds in. Question:- Does anyone expect this engine’s oil consumption to suddenly, or even gradually decrease in the next couple of thousand miles? One point that confuses Anne:- Your posts reads that it was necessary to add 4 litres of oil in one go, at one time, since the remaining volume in the sump was only 1.5 litres. If this is so, then something is wrong/ignored with the oil level sensor, which usually warns to top up the oil when the level drops by c 1 to 1.5 litres. Running this engine with only 1.5 litres in the sump would be bad news. Kind regards, Gareth.

Well done Paul. Kind regards, Gareth.

And your money back Paul? Kind regards, Gareth.

Hello Gregg, You are obviously familiar with the classic car policy world, so depending on what your usage will be for this 19 year old car, then classic car brokers would be my first port of call. Appreciate the car is not quite 20 years old, but...... It your usage is not suitable for classic car cover then you could try Adrian Flux on here, who I’m sure they will be able to advise in any case. Kind regards, Gareth.

Hello Philip, Sorry to hear of your issue, but please do not rush out and buy a new starter motor for this car without further investigation. The car is 5 year old, and it’s not unusual for the battery to be sub standard at this age, if the stop/start function has been in frequent use. This would be my first port of call, and I would be getting the battery efficiency measured before doing anything else. If it does prove to be sub standard then it’s worth buying once and wisely, and investing in a Varta/Bosch replacement with at least a 4 year guarantee. You can buy mail order on line at very competitive prices. EBay is my preferred starting point, where you will find sellers such as Battery Megastore, Tayna, Plymouth Batteries etc. If you are eventually forced to renew the starter motor then beware - cheap is usually cheap, and personally, I would not be buying one made made too far east of the Thames estuary from ECP and the likes. You are likely to get what you pay for. Kind regards, Gareth.

Seems the OP hasn’t visited the forum for almost a month. Apologies, I missed the date of the original post. Kind regards, Gareth.

Hello Clive, Many thanks for posting. Sounds a steal/ too-cheap-in-current-climate, for someone, so I’d be sure it will quickly find a new home. Kind regards, Gareth.

Hello Tom, Although you don’t say, I guess it also judders when starting to reverse - up-hills being aggravators in both 1st and reverse. Obviously the car needs to be inspected and tested, so the forum can only guess at possibilities. If engine and gearbox mountings are declared sound on inspection, then unfortunately your symptoms point to clutch issues, but again you will need local inspection and confirmation of this. Clutch renewed 18K ago, so cannot be that?? Unfortunately, there are some poor quality aftermarket components available and for some owners, price becomes king, and the cheapest short term improvement is good enough. Perhaps you could let the forum know how you get on. ‘Just bought....’ Was this issues suspected or indeed evident during a test drive? Kind regards, Gareth.

Sounds good Mark. I take it you will not be agreeing to the car being registered until the new registration day of 1st. September. Kind regards, Gareth.

Hello Paul, I do indeed wish you luck, but resolving such unacceptable treatment should not depend on good luck. As I mentioned, I really think it would be to your advantage to take someone with you. Kind regards, Gareth.

Thanks Paul, and apologies, for my comments on your duplicate post which I read before this one. Right, we now have the fully understandable story, and indeed this confirms that your ‘claim’ should be fully with the dealer, and not dependent with any ‘advice’ which Audi U.K. will give you. You bought the car off the dealer, and the dealer has to be responsible for such issues which occur so soon after delivery. Let me raise a simple question? Do you personally have any control of, or responsibility for the voltage of the battery of this virtually new vehicle? It is a near new vehicle, which has been correctly used, yet it has proved to be unreliable. So answering the question for you - you cannot be expected to shoulder any blame for this unacceptable situation. Personally, I would have refused to pay this bill for the above reason, and this reason would form the backbone of my strongly worded e-Mail to the dealer principal, and I would forget about waiting for any response from Audi U.K. If you find this sort of thing to be rather difficult to deal with, then it would be great if you could get someone who is fair, but assertive to deal with it for you. You should certainly not have to worry about it. In my book, I would be expecting over 14v with the engine running - 13.3v seems low. Also, it could be me (or the photo), but does that battery really look brand new...??? Kind regards, Gareth.

Hello Paul, I’m sure everyone on here sympathises with your unfortunate experience, and I think most would not have been as tolerant as you appear to have been, and indeed, to me, you posts echo an understandable concern and worry that things are not right, and the vehicle may let you down again. It’s possibly me, but I’m still not clear on some of the important detail here, and you don’t seem to be clarifying those points, raised on your other post on the same topic, which would lead to the forum to hopefully giving you some useful advice. Kind regards, Gareth.

OK Mason, If you suspect the noise is generated by the auxiliary belt or associated tensioner, then simply remove the belt as a trial to test if the noise goes away. Kind regards, Gareth.

‘Yes, that’s correct’. What statement is correct Mark? Kind regards, Gareth.

Thanks Paul. I’m now even more confused! So did the breakdown company ( whoever they are??) renew the battery? - rather than the dealer. Different story! Who now has the original battery? If so, it becomes even more important to know what make of battery they fitted - and you don’t tell us. Kind regards, Gareth.

Well, all rather academic now, since the original poster hasn’t returned to the forum since he placed the post.

Thanks Mason. Still can’t understand the reference to being in gear though. If you suspect the drive belt ( Cambelt?) tensioner then this needs looking at urgently. Question - does this early 1.6 actually have a belt rather than a chain? Kind regards, Gareth.